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Sep 3, 2023

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Guest Bio: John is the CEO of Aronetics. An avid climber and runner, John has spoken at many conferences about topics like ZeroTrust, BIOS/UEFI security, communication security, and malware. Aronetics is a technology-enabled service provider. 


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John joins us to discuss “letters of Marque” in an effort for hackers to ‘hack back’... the overreliance on automation, and communication siloes. We also talk about what a ‘junior position’ in infosec looks like with AI doing all the “Level 1 SOC Analyst” type roles normally given to someone fresh to the security industry.


Questions and topics:

  1. Is infosec over reliant on automation? Automation comes with its own challenges.

    1. Documentation woes

    1. Automation is usually found in userland


Aronetics’ Thor provides defense and counter-offense tamper-proof technology digitally tied to 


Letter of Marque - good idea, or geopolitical disaster waiting to happen?

Siloes and communication -best ways to overcome those in an org and outside?

How do we overcome siloing?


Overcoming security challenges?Identity management - 2FA is everywhere, there’s already ways around 2FA, so what now? 3FA? Biometrics? Make everyone carry around physical tokens that we can lose?


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What do we need to protect against? Nation states with quantum computers? Rubber hose cryptography?


Crime thrives in areas of low visibility. (threat detection - the crime thrives in low vis areas)


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Amanda Berlin: (Mastodon) @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: @bryanbrake on