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Aug 25, 2023

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Megan Roddie is currently working as a Senior Security Engineer at IBM. Along with her work at IBM, she works with the SANS Institute as a co-author of FOR509, presents regularly at security conferences, and serves as CFO of Mental Health Hackers. Megan has two Master's degrees, one in Digital Forensics and the other in Information Security Engineering, along with many industry certifications in a wide range of specialties. When Megan is not fighting cybercrime, she is an active competitor in Muay Thai/Kickboxing. She is a co-author of “Practical Threat Detection Engineering” from Packt publishing, on sale now in print and e-book. Buy here: ← Amazon redirect link that publisher uses if you want something easier on the notes


Questions and topics:

  1. Of the 3 models, which do you find you use more and why? (PoP, ATT&CK, kill chain)

  2. What kind of orgs have ‘detection engineering’ teams? What roles are involved here, and can other teams (like IR) be involved or share a reverse role there?

  3. Lab setup requires an agent… any agent for ingestion or something specific? 

  4. How does Fleet or data ingestion work for Iot/Embedded device testing? Anything you suggest?

  5. How important is it to normalize your log output for ingestion? (app, web, server all tell the story)

Additional information / pertinent LInks (Would you like to know more?):

  1. Unified Kill Chain:

  2. ATT&CK: 

  3. D3FEND matrix BrakeSec show from 2021: 

  4. Pyramid of Pain:


  6. (per Megan, ‘it’s basically Chapter 11 of the book’)

Show points of Contact:

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: @bryanbrake on, Twitter, bluesky

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