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Feb 14, 2017

Mick Douglas is always great to have on. A consummate professional, and blue team advocate for years now, he teaches SANS courses designed to help defenders against the forces of the red team, pentesters, and even bad actors.

But this week, we have a different Mr. Douglas.  This week, he's here to talk about sales tactics, #neuro #linguistic #programming, leading the question, and other social engineering techniques that salespeople will do to get you to buy maybe what your company doesn't need, but thinks it does. We have some good times discussing ways to ensure the buying of your new shiny box at work goes more smoothly, what you should look out for, and ways to tell if they are over-selling and under-delivering.

Also, Mick has been working on a project near and dear to his heart. After discussing with @carnal0wnage a year or so back, he's fleshed out a spreadsheet that tracks attack vectors, and depending on what controls are in your environment, can show you how well a particular attack is against your environment. This would be a great asset to blue teams who might want to shore up defenses, especially if they are vulnerable in a particular area. Mr. Douglas is looking for comments, suggestions, and additions to his spreadsheet, and you can even download a copy of the Google Doc to try in your own environment, free of charge.

Book mentioned in the show: (non-sponsored link) https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Psychology-Persuasion-Robert-Cialdini/dp/006124189X

Mick's document:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pI-FI1QITaIjuBsN30au1ssbJAZawPA0BYy8lp6_jV8/edit#gid=0

Mick refers the the MITRE ATTACK matrix in the show, here's our show discussing it:

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-051-ATTACK_Matrix.mp3

https://attack.mitre.org/wiki/ATT%26CK_Matrix

 

 

Mick's last appearances on BrakeSec:

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-024-Mick_Douglas.mp3

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-025-Mick_douglas_part2.mp3

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2015-032-Jarrod_and_Mick_DFIR.mp3

http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2016-026-exfiltration_techniques-redteaming_vs_pentesting-and-gaining_persistence.mp3

 

Direct Link:   http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2017-005-mick_douglas-attack_defense_worksheet.mp3

iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brakeing-down-security-podcast/id799131292?mt=2

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3K-2yneKU4

 

 

Bsides London is accepting Call for Papers starting 14 Febuary 2017, as well as a Call for Workshops. You can find out more information at https://www.securitybsides.org.uk/

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Feb 6, 2017

This week, we discuss sandboxing technologies. Most of the time, infosec people are using sandboxes and similar technology for analyzing malware and malicious software.

Developers use it to create additional protections, or even to create defenses to ward off potential attack vectors.

We discuss sandboxes and sandboxing technology, jails, chrooting of applications, and even tools that keep applications honest, in particular, the pledge(2) function in OpenBSD

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Show notes:

 

Sandboxing tech  -  https://hangouts.google.com/call/yrpzdahvjjdbfhesvjltk4ahgmf

 

A sandbox is implemented by executing the software in a restricted operating system environment, thus controlling the resources (for example, file descriptors, memory, file system space, etc.) that a process may use.

 

Various types of sandbox tech

 

Jails - freebsd

    Much like Solaris 10’s zones, restricted operating system, also able to install OSes inside, like Debian

        http://devil-detail.blogspot.com/2013/08/debian-linux-freebsd-jail-zfs.html

 

Pledge(8)  - new to OpenBSD

    Program says what it should use, if it steps outside those lines, it’s killed

    http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/going-full-pledge

    http://man.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man2/pledge.2?query=pledge

    http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00008.html

 

Chroot - openbsd, linux (chroot jails)

    “A chroot on Unix operating systems is an operation that changes the apparent root directory for the current running process and its children”

    Example: “www” runs in /var/www. A chrooted www website must contain all the necessary files and libraries inside of /var/www, because to the application /var/www is ‘/’

 

Rules based execution - AppArmor, PolicyKit, SeLinux

    Allows users to set what will be ran, and which apps can inject DLLs or objects.

    “It also can control file/registry security (what programs can read and write to the file system/registry). In such an environment, viruses and trojans have fewer opportunities of infecting a computer.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Security_Modules

 

Android VMs

 

Virtual machines - sandboxes in their own right

    Snapshot capability

    Revert once changes have occurred

    CON: some malware will detect VM environments, change ways of working

 

Containers (docker, kubernetes, vagrant, etc)

    Quick standup of images

    Blow away without loss of host functionality

    Helpful to run containers as an un-privileged user.

https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/getting-towards-real-sandbox-containers/

 

Chrome sandbox: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux_sandboxing.md

 

Emulation Vs. Virtualization

 

http://labs.lastline.com/different-sandboxing-techniques-to-detect-advanced-malware  --seems like a good link

 

VMware Thinapp (emulator):

https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1030224

 

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Malware lab creation (Alienvault blog):

https://www.alienvault.com/blogs/security-essentials/building-a-home-lab-to-become-a-malware-hunter-a-beginners-guide

 

https://www.reverse.it/

 

News: (assuming it goes short)

SHA-1 generated certs will be deprecated soon - https://threatpost.com/sha-1-end-times-have-arrived/123061/

 

(whitelisting files in Apache)

https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Whitelisting+File+Extensions+in+Apache/21937

 

http://blog.erratasec.com/2017/01/the-command-line-for-cybersec.html

https://github.com/robertkuhar/java_coding_guidelines

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/South%20Korean%20Malware%20Attack_1.pdf#

 

https://www.concise-courses.com/security/conferences-of-2017/

Jan 29, 2017

Amanda Berlin attended Shmoocon this year, and sat down with a few people. She discussed a bit with John about what HackEd is about (http://hackeducate.com/)

Amands writes: "I had an amazing time at my 3rd #Shmoocon. I was able to interview a handful of really cool people working on several different types of infosec education. I was able to watch a few talks, spend some time in the lockpick village, as well as go to Shmoocon Epilogue. It’s always amazing to watch people talk about what they are passionate about, and Shmoocon is a great relaxed environment where that happens frequently."

James Green @greenjam94
Aaron Lint @lintile  
Jon? @hackeducate

Melanie Rich-Wittrig @securitycandy

Amanda Berlin attended ShmooCon this year, and sat down with a few people. She discussed a bit with John about what HackEd is about (http://hackeducate.com/)

Melanie Rich-Wittrig (@securitycandy) discusses how she's empowering kids to get into information security, even as early as age 10 or 11. She discusses how she motivates by teaching CTF and hacking concept, and gamifying by using point systems.

www.securitycandy.com

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Jan 21, 2017

In your environment, you deal with threats from all over the world. Many groups out there pool resources to help everyone deal with those #threats. Some come in the form of threat #intelligence from various intelligence companies, like #Carbon #Black, #FireEye, and #Crowdstrike.

But what if your company cannot afford such products, or are not ready to engage those types of companies, and still need need protections? Never fear, there are open source options available (see show notes below). These products aren't perfect, but they will provide a modicum of protection from 'known' bad actors, SSH trolls, etc.

We discuss some of the issues using them, discuss how to use them in your #environment.

Lastly, we discuss #mentorship. Having a good mentor/mentee relationship can be mutally beneficial to both parties. We discuss what it takes to be a good mentee, as well as a good mentor...

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNrINl1oZE

 

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Show Notes:

HANGOUTS:  https://hangouts.google.com/call/w7rkkde5yrew5nm4n7bfw4wfjme

 

2017-002-Threat Lists, IDS/IPS rulesets, and infosec mentoring

 

  1. Threat Lists (didn’t have much time to research :/)
    1. THIS EXACTLY - http://blogs.gartner.com/anton-chuvakin/2014/01/28/threat-intelligence-is-not-signatures/   
      1. Don’t use threat list feeds (by IP/domain) as threat intelligence
      2. Can use them for aggressively blocking, don’t use for alerting
    2. https://isc.sans.edu/suspicious_domains.html
    3. https://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt
    4. http://iplists.firehol.org/
    5. https://zeltser.com/malicious-ip-blocklists/
    6. https://medium.com/@markarenaau/actionable-intelligence-is-it-a-capability-problem-or-does-your-intelligence-provider-suck-d8d38b1cbd25#.ncpmqp9cx
    7. Spamhaus: https://www.spamhaus.org/
    8. leachers
    1. Open rulesets - You can always depend on the kindness of strangers
      1. Advantage is that these are created by companies that have worldwide reach
      2. Updated daily
      3. Good accompanying documentation
    2. You can buy large rulesets to use in your own IDS implementation
      1. Depends on your situation if you want to go managed or do yourself
      2. Regardless you need to test them
    3. Managed security services will do this for you
      1. I don’t recommend unless you have a team of dedicated people or you don’t care about getting hacked- signatures are way too dynamic, like trying to do AV sigs all by yourself
      2. Only a good idea for one-off, targeted attacks
    4. DIY
  2. IDS/IPS rulesets
    1. https://securityintelligence.com/signature-based-detection-with-yara/
    2. http://yararules.com/
    3. http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/yara-simple-effective-way-dissecting-malware/
  3. Yara rules
    1. For Mentors
      1. Set expectations & boundaries
      2. Find a good fit
      3. Be an active listener
      4. Keep open communication
      5. Schedule time
      6. Create homework
      7. Don’t assume technical level
      1. Ask questions
      2. Do your own research
      3. Find a good fit
      4. Put forth effort
      5. It’s not the Mentor’s job to handhold, take responsibility for own learning
      6. Value their time
      7. Come to each meeting with an agenda
    2. For Mentees
    3. Mentoring frameworks?
  4. InfoSec Mentoring
    1. https://t.co/mLXjfF1HEr
    2. https://gist.github.com/AFineDayFor/5cdd0341a2b384c20e615dcedeef0741
  5. Podcasts (Courtesy of Ms. Hannelore)
    1. https://t.co/mLXjfF1HEr
    2. https://gist.github.com/AFineDayFor/5cdd0341a2b384c20e615dcedeef074
Jan 12, 2017

We start Brakeing Down Security with a huge surprise! A 3rd member of the podcast! Amanda #Berlin (@infosystir) joins us this year to help us educate people on #security topics. During the year, she'll be getting us some audio from various conventions and giving us her perspective working as an #MSSP, as well as a blue team (defender).

We start out talking about new #California #legislation about making #malware illegal. What are politicians in California thinking? We work through that and try to find some understanding.

With all the various secure messaging systems out there, we discuss how why secure messaging systems fail so poorly with regards to #interoperability and the difficulties in getting average non-infosec people to adopt one. We also discuss #Perfect #Foward #Security and how it prevents people from decrypting old messages, even if the key is compromised.

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---Show Notes---

News story:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-crime-ransomware-bill-20160712-snap-story.html

 

“If this legislation gives prosecutors the tools that they didn’t have before, where are the cases that they have lost because they didn’t have these tools?” said Brandon Perry, a senior consultant for NTT Com Security. “Authorities are focused on prosecuting criminals that they can’t even find, as opposed to educating the victims to prevent this from happening again and again.”

 

Ransomware won’t infect you if you watch training videos:

http://thehackernews.com/2017/01/decrypt-ransomware-files.html

 

Secure messaging - stuck in an Apple ecosystem

    Too many, no interoperability

        Signal, Whisper, Wickr, Wire, WhatsApp, FB messenger

        I uninstalled Signal… can’t convince people to adopt something if everyone cannot message one another --BrBr

 

OpenPGP is ‘dangerous’

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/signal-does-not-replace-pgp/

    Forward Secrecy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_secrecy

        “A public-key system has the property of forward secrecy if it generates one random secret key per session to complete a key agreement, without using a deterministic algorithm.” (input given gives the same output every time)

Perfect Forward Secrecy - “In cryptography, forward secrecy (FS; also known as perfect forward secrecy[1]) is a property of secure communication protocols in which compromise of long-term keys does not compromise past session keys.

   

Ms. Amanda’s pentest homework:

“https://docs.google.com/document/d/17NJPXpqB5Upma2-6Hu5svBxd8PH0Ex7VgCvRUhiUNk8/edit”

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